Stuart Henshall

Yahoo! Messenger - 7.5 Beta

March 22, 2006 08:45 AM

Topics: Competitors

I've loaded up Yahoo Messenger beta 7.5. Before even trying it out I know it is going to be better. They've tossed out the old audio codec and upgraded to GIPS. I'll have to do some testing to be sure. Still I expect the audio quality to now be very competitive. You probably have Yahoo on your desktop anyways. Go and download it now.

yahoo75beta.pngOn the download there is the usual frustrating (make Yahoo my homepage, install toolbars (only for IE) etc.) Then you get a screen promoting Yahoo! Music Unlimited. It feels attractive... a seven day trial is available. There are minor tweaks to the GUI and some bugs too. Example: Buddy on SMS. You want to leave a Voice Message (Voice mail) you select "call computer", instead you only get a chat window. Finding how to make a real phone call is still buried. There is no obvious dialpad. However when you click "Call a phone number" a window opens up allowing you to add dollars to your voice account. This aspect feels like just another add-on that isn't integrated effectively yet. It would be easy to add the dialpad to the top tabs. Similarly it is not very obvious how you obtain Yahoo In. I found it.The numbers are limited currently. New York, San Francisco, London and Paris.

Oh I failed to mention the rates. Yahoo rates are significantly below Skype for many markets. Surprisingly it is cheaper to call England 1cent than it is to call in the US 2cents. I'd recommend that Yahoo provide a "trial" Yahoo-Out experience for $1.00. There are some ways to craft this type of offer to frustrate fraud. Yahoo also provides SMS messaging for free (something Skype plans to charge for) and has a great mobile client now Yahoo!Mobile.

So.... what comes next. The GIPS codec will make conference calls possible in time. So I'm sure that is coming. The balance of the Yahoo client is rapidly developing to provide a powerful integration with social networking and media services. I don't think I saw any call forwarding function, etc. It's is bound to come as well.

So now we are at a point where the IM clients are increasingly competive as a "voice substitute" for phones and we will continue to see huge increases in usage. Skype still has the upper hand for ease of use.

Skype still has some features which the others aren't yet matching.

  • Conference Calling.
  • Multi-chat simplicity and infrastructure approach
  • Voice Messaging
  • SkypeAPI - ap to ap opportunities.
  • Encryption - Security (don't underestimate this one)

    Right now cheap rates aren't compelling enough for me to change back. Concurrently the Yahoo client is not doing an effective job at targeting a real change in behavior. "With Voice" remains an afterthought. Moving too fast risks making users mad. Running at the pace they are going still feels like General Motors to me.

    Josh Gershman, on behalf of Yahoo!’s Communications Products team Enhancements to Yahoo! Messenger with Voice:

    Phone Out: U.S. audiences (including Yahoo! en Espanol) can easily stay in touch with their friends and family in more than 180 countries across the Europe, Asia and the Americas, with low cost calling from their PC to traditional phones and mobile phones. Calls within the U.S. and to more than 30 other countries can be made for two U.S. cents a minute or less. Specific low-cost calling rates can be found at: http://voice.yahoo.com.

    Phone In: The Phone In service gives U.S. audiences the ability to receive calls on their PC from traditional and mobile phones. For $2.99 a month or $29.90 a year, people can select a personal phone number, and receive incoming calls at no additional charge. For instance, New York residents, who have friends and family in London, are able to choose a local London-based phone number. When remote friends and family make calls to the personal number, they will be charged for placing a local phone call to that phone number. People can choose to have multiple phone numbers, and wherever they travel, their phone numbers will follow them. In the beta service, country-based phone numbers are initially available in France, the United Kingdom, and the United States with additional country-based numbers available in the coming months.

    Free Voicemail:
    People will now be able to take advantage of a free voicemail service with both their PC-to-PC inbound calls and Phone In calls. If a call is missed, whether from a PC, traditional phone or mobile phone, people can easily retrieve the message at no additional cost. Additionally, Yahoo! Mail now includes useful links to Yahoo! Messenger with Voice, enabling people to easily check their voicemail directly from Yahoo! Mail.

    Introduction of ads: Yahoo! has made the strategic business decision to increase monetization of Yahoo! Messenger with the introduction of an unobtrusive ad in the client. As part of our thoughtful and considerate approach, we conducted a variety of usability tests and focus groups to ensure we are introducing it the right way. Our users told us that because we are providing a valuable free service, they accept ads. Ads will allow us to put even more resources behind developing and delivering compelling features.

    Contact Search Bar: The new Contact Search Bar provides a fast way to find and quickly connect with friends and family. As people type their friends’ names, Yahoo! IDs, phone numbers, nicknames or any other information stored in their contact details, matching results will automatically populate the Contact Search Bar. Choose how to communicate with friends, whether it is through text IM, voice calling, e-mail or mobile text messaging, becomes easier than ever.

    Licensing Global IP Sound: Committed to providing a high-quality call experience, Yahoo! Messenger with Voice is leveraging the GIPS VoiceEngine Multimedia infrastructure to deliver market-leading PC-to-PC and PC-to-Phone voice quality to consumers worldwide. GIPS Voice Engine Multimedia is a voice and video processing solution that handles all of the complex quality issues that come with IP communications including jitter delay, packet loss and acoustic echo.




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    Posted by: Peter Henning at March 22, 2006 12:28 PM

    Yahoo Messenger 7.5 beta has been available for ages and that so called free (ad-supported) sms is only for Verizon Wireless, Cingular MEdia Net, Cingular mMode, T-Mobile and Rogers. So nothing for the rest of the world.
    Regards,

    Posted by: Krish at March 22, 2006 3:14 PM

    Skype has another advantage too. It provides a fully functional Linux Client which Yahoo doesn't provide.

    Posted by: sara at March 22, 2006 11:41 PM

    we are talking really anout less than 2 bucks a month. Who cares? its like saying change jobs for 200 dOLLARS. nO WAY! IM STILL SKYPE IN OUT:Ill wait for a real change in offer like free net to fon ad supported like in internetcalls.com. Said co istemporary but if anyone offered free net2fon is change. Or free fon2net as well.What about a free in the mail headfon mic set? that would do it as well. And if google wants me Ill take a free gooosed up blach fibered 100 dollar laptop with wifi. ITs that easy!!!

    Posted by: EsmeV at March 23, 2006 8:45 AM

    Ugh. Ads. I'm sticking to Skype.

    Posted by: alan jones at March 28, 2006 3:53 AM

    And I'm sticking with Adium and Skype for Mac, because the most recent Mac version of Yahoo! Messenger is version 2.5.3! Even the copyright notice on the client expired three years ago - it says "© Yahoo! 1994-2003"!

    Posted by: vishnu at April 6, 2006 10:04 PM




    Vishnu.



    I am doing BscIT.I want to know more about yahoo messenger to mobile calls.

    Posted by: shibu at April 11, 2006 10:04 AM

    can somebody tell me if i can use yahoo messanger v7.5 to make p.c to p.c calls to computers using yahoo messanger v7.

    Posted by: Keith at April 12, 2006 4:52 PM

    I just tried the latest version of Yahoo Messenger Beta 7.5. During the install I got a warning message about a library being updated or something (sorry I didn't write it down). I tried out YIM under different conditions. Some combination of events -- I don't know what exactly, causes the YIM process to drive CPU utilization up to almost 100%. Windows XP stalls until I terminate the YIM process. Further, from the time I installed YIM my computer I experienced general instability. I had to uninstall YIM by restoring from an image backup I made before the install.

    One further point worth mentioning, nowhere on Yahoo's Messenger site do they allow beta testers to post comments or feedback. There is no mechanism to report problems. What kind of beta program is that!!!

    Posted by: Max Watson at April 22, 2006 1:12 AM

    Hey Keith, there's this thing called GOOGLE, and if you go to their website and type in "yahoo messenger beta feedback", the very first link will take you to a page that has a link to give feedback. Isn't searching AMAZING?

    Posted by: Patrick at May 16, 2006 2:36 AM

    can anyone tell me where i can get encryption software for yahoo messener 7.5 beta. the security level for yahoo leaves alot to be desired. i am still a skype fun though...

    Posted by: Srinivas at May 21, 2006 2:10 AM

    I want Latest Yahoomessenger PC-to PC calls
    Plz send me

    Posted by: H at June 17, 2006 7:41 AM

    To any yahoo messenger development suits reading this:

    The ads at the bottom of the new yahoo messenger client SUCK. Please get them the f*** out of the client (or else I switch to using gaim, trillian, or one of those other free and excellent clients, or I switch out from using Y! messenger completely)

    For everyone else:

    Although the ads are a f***ing pain in the a$$, they can be removed with a simple registry edit. See here for details.

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