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Posted by: Rick at November 15, 2005 10:31 AM
What does Telefonica have to do with Germany?
Posted by: Bill Campbell at November 15, 2005 12:50 PM
Hey Rick!
I guess Telefonica are making in-roads into Germany. What better partner could they have than Skype. I think it is a brilliant move.
Regards, Bill
Posted by: Jean Mercier at November 15, 2005 1:45 PM
Telephone market is becoming open in Europe, and Telefonica has foot on ground in Germany (http://www.telefonica.de/), and saw here an opportunity to make fast and easy (but perhaps not very profitable) money. Perhaps they have problems selling their "ordinary" services ;-)
Posted by: Tilman Haerdle at November 15, 2005 11:16 PM
I'm not quite sure but as far as I know you can't get a DSL-based internet access without a landline-connection and the related fee. You might switch from Deutsche Telekom to other landline-providers but this works only in some regions.
Posted by: jaja at November 16, 2005 1:54 AM
telefonica actually is quite a big player in .de - i think they bot mediaways some yrs ago, which had one of the biggest ip networks then. telefonica is also the white-label-provider behind a number of other voip services
Posted by: Alex at November 17, 2005 2:40 AM
First, Telefonica has a major IP backbone in Germany.
Secondly, they are unbundling central offices at fast speed (covering about half of German households by mid 2006) - HOWEVER, using line sharing, thereby investing only in DSL/IP, not legacy PSTN.
Thirdly, the deal with Skype enables them to gather early adopters, they can later market Naked DSL to (assuming someone with Skype not to need anything else).
And fourth, sorry Tony, dumping the - rather 17-20 EUR than 20-30 - landline IS NOT AN OPTION, since you still need DSL - unless you do not use Skype at home....
Posted by: kju at November 20, 2005 5:22 PM
Telefonica has also a german subsidiary and happens to be one of the few telcos which have subscriber numbers allocated from every german "Ortsnetz" (area code, typically one area code per town regardless of size). Telefonica is also big in Internet in germany. They provide dial-up and DSL internet access e.g. for AOL and a lot of other providers as an intermediary provider.
Most VoIP providers in germany struggle with the availability of local numbers. Even many of the big players only provide local numbers in a limited number of area codes. Skype should not have that problem, as Telefonica can provide numbers from all area codes.
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