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» Google Talk from NetworkWorld.com Community
A round-up of some comments on Google's new chat/VoIP/IM thing:
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Posted by: Geoff at August 24, 2005 4:31 AM
Good article but surely T mobile have just been purchased by Deutsche Telekom? See http://www.t-online.net/c/05/69/62/569622.html
Posted by: Julian Bond at August 24, 2005 4:43 AM
When I saw Google.talk used Jabber I naturally assumed I could send jabber messages to a google.talk attached client from other jabber servers. Hmm. Not yet as far as I can tell. So while jabber clients can connect to google.talk, they're not running a full peer jabber server. probably.
Posted by: Paul Jardine at August 24, 2005 5:09 AM
Excellent article Stuart, I was just agreeing with Om Malik that Google doesn't need Skype, when they released GoogleTalk!
It would be interesting to ask the people at Skype, 'What's your Google strategy?', but I feel that, unless there is a whole lot more than video in the latter stages of development at Skype, Google has the experience, the leverage (in terms of desktop search, maps etc and sheer financial power) and the desire to win this race.
It seems mad to buy Google shares at the current level, but I think I just might...
Posted by: Rick at August 24, 2005 7:32 AM
Isn't new stuff great. I hope G Talk works out good, but before we throw away Skype let's do a reality check.
First, you mentioned some of your calls failed. This is totally unacceptable. I've rarely had such an experience with Skype, even from day one. Skype reliablility and quality is in the telephone standards ballpark. Can Google really deliver? Can they place 99.9 percent of my calls through firewalls? Let's wait and see before giving Skype a cold nudge. Skype is the TELEPHONY leader in this market and will remain so until real performance dictates, not just talk, i.e. G Talk.
My concern comes from an incident this weekend in which I decided to finally go for the wonderful well-regarded Gizmo Project. After downloading Gizmo, I was not able to log-in and unable to use the product. Hasn't it been out for months now. I got my brother to call me from his Gizmo to my cell phone. The quaility was terrible. He called me on Skype to cell phone and the quality was excellent.
Skype is a TELEPHONY product, first-most. This is Skype's greatest value to businesses and many callers around the world. I guess you could just say "It Works." And today, that says a lot.
Posted by: Stuart Henshall at August 24, 2005 8:44 AM
Geoff,
I should have been more specific. I meant T-Mobile USA for which I've seen pieces written that it doesn't have a 3G strategy and needs a major investment for a network upgrade. At the moment it is the weak player in the US mobile market. If memory serves me right I saw numbers around 5 billion quoted. Now that may be for the network upgrade.
Thanks for picking me up on it.
Posted by: Stuart Henshall at August 24, 2005 8:58 AM
Rick,
I'm not throwing out Skype yet. Today's Talk product doesn't compare. Still Google provides a "cache" that will be attractive. Skype is the "Telephony" leader, however Google's strategy is not telephony, it's talk and conversations. What I had hoped to hightlight is Google's path forward is significantly different to Skype's already. Their path is likely to provide different forms of innovation, that may actually be more disruptive in the end.
On the connections. I had no problem logging in to Google although I think the whole VoIP world tried at the same time or at least in minutes last night. I didn't feel like they had a problem however I wasn't alone in feeling the voice connection delay. The voice quality was superb.
On Gizmo, it's still not as effective at going through firewalls. You are right overall our expectations are increasing. Soon we won't even accept dropped calls.
It certainly makes for interesting times.
Posted by: Rick at August 24, 2005 9:24 AM
My comments weren't directed. They were probably more for myself than anyone. My main point is that I have not actually seen a product in Voip work like Skype, much less work period.
Posted by: Cesareo at August 27, 2005 1:46 AM
Hi!
Very good opinion and comments. Also I'd like to know about an important actor here: standards. I think that the use of XMMP and, in future SIP is important. Some people were worried about closed protocol of Skype, and sure, It is a good movemente the new API, but we (users) need protocols.
If XMMP come up and everybody uses it, perhaps Google (in talk and communications) will have a feet forward. I don't know. As I user, I'm happy to, at least, have a standard. After that I'll choose my platform.
Posted by: Marat at August 27, 2005 11:27 PM
I'm sorry, guys, but I just wonder what the Gtalk is like in terms of networking architecture, i.e. peer-to-peer skype-like or centralized approach? So is it going to use my processing and bandwith capacities?
Posted by: 8th street latinas at November 5, 2005 10:36 AM
XMMP come up and everybody uses it, perhaps Google (in talk and communications) will have a feet forward. I don't know. As I user, I'm happy to, at least, have a standard. After that I'll choose my platform
Posted by: young boy at December 27, 2005 5:34 AM
My comments weren't directed. They were probably more for myself than anyone. My main point is that I have not actually seen a product in Voip work like Skype, much less work period.
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